| [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237282] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 02:45 |
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There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the Eagle"
which bears some similarity to Om's experiences with eagles.
http://www.afro.com/children/myths/eagle/intro.html
Soon to be made into "X-Man Fairy Tales" #2, starring Professor
Xavier as the tortoise and Magneto as the eagle. No, really. Why
would I make something like that up?
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237284 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 02:49 |
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Also Sprach Daibhid Ceanaideach:
> There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the
> Eagle" which bears some similarity to Om's experiences with
> eagles.
>
> http://www.afro.com/children/myths/eagle/intro.html
Sorry, it's late. I should have said "elements of which bear
some..." And it's mostly the stuff past the halfway point.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237285 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 03:19 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach said:
> There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the Eagle"
> which bears some similarity to Om's experiences with eagles.
I suspect that TP is very well aware, and quite possibly has been since a
small child, of the rather unusual way in which Aeschylus is said to have
died.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237286 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 03:52 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Soon to be made into "X-Man Fairy Tales" #2, starring Professor
> Xavier as the tortoise and Magneto as the eagle. No, really. Why
> would I make something like that up?
Juggernaught would make a better tortoise.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237298 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 06:08 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the Eagle"
> which bears some similarity to Om's experiences with eagles.
>
> http://www.afro.com/children/myths/eagle/intro.html
>
> Soon to be made into "X-Man Fairy Tales" #2, starring Professor
> Xavier as the tortoise and Magneto as the eagle. No, really. Why
> would I make something like that up?
I have no trouble believing this. Last Sunday at church, Wolverine was
sitting three rows in front of me (seriously).
-Rock
--
Rock onstage with JJ Cale and E. Clapton: http://tinyurl.com/dn9tj
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237303 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 07:07 |
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Rocky Frisco wrote:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>> There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the Eagle"
>> which bears some similarity to Om's experiences with eagles.
>>
>> http://www.afro.com/children/myths/eagle/intro.html
>>
>> Soon to be made into "X-Man Fairy Tales" #2, starring Professor
>> Xavier as the tortoise and Magneto as the eagle. No, really. Why
>> would I make something like that up?
>
> I have no trouble believing this. Last Sunday at church, Wolverine was
> sitting three rows in front of me (seriously).
>
> -Rock
Whoa, you got Wolverine? Only guy who goes to my church is Ambush Bug.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237306 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 08:22 |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:08:57 -0600, Rocky Frisco <rock [at] rocky-frisco.com>
wrote:
>Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>> There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the Eagle"
>> which bears some similarity to Om's experiences with eagles.
>>
>> http://www.afro.com/children/myths/eagle/intro.html
>>
>> Soon to be made into "X-Man Fairy Tales" #2, starring Professor
>> Xavier as the tortoise and Magneto as the eagle. No, really. Why
>> would I make something like that up?
>
>I have no trouble believing this. Last Sunday at church, Wolverine was
>sitting three rows in front of me (seriously).
Amen, bub.
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237342 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 12:43 |
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Also Sprach Richard Heathfield:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach said:
>
>> There's an African folktale called "The Tortoise and the
>> Eagle" which bears some similarity to Om's experiences
>> with eagles.
>
> I suspect that TP is very well aware, and quite possibly
> has been since a small child, of the rather unusual way in
> which Aeschylus is said to have died.
Oh, definitely. But just because there's one reference doesn't
mean there isn't another. This one has the tortoise holding
onto the eagle to control it. Having said that, it's probably
a coincidence (but an interesting one).
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
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| Re: [A] (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237435 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 22:16 |
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:43:25 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Oh, definitely. But just because there's one reference doesn't
> mean there isn't another. This one has the tortoise holding
> onto the eagle to control it. Having said that, it's probably
> a coincidence (but an interesting one).
I doubt it's a coincidence, as I'm sure I've seen references to many other
fairy tales in PTerry's books, but they're all cute'n'sweet parody's of
whichever tale he chooses to change around a little to go with his story.
I reckon he must have heard the tale before several times, and just used
it as a wild and funny basis to Small Gods - and it worked beautifully too!
All the best
Sofie
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Please visit my deviantART page: http://sofen.deviantart.com/
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| Re: (possibly) for Small Gods [message #237787 ] |
Fr, 17 März 2006 14:32 |
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Puck wrote:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> > Soon to be made into "X-Man Fairy Tales" #2, starring Professor
> > Xavier as the tortoise and Magneto as the eagle. No, really. Why
> > would I make something like that up?
>
> Juggernaught would make a better tortoise.
But he's a messy eater.
Incidentally, I suppose the coyote or tiger stories aren't African...
and that /particular/ telling may even arise after _Small Gods_ was
published. But I presume it's authentic, except for Tortoise's white
picket fence and mailbox.
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